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. >>> here at home faa furloughs of air traffic controllers began today but the real test is tomorrow. the first business day of the week. delays could run for hours at major hubs such as atlanta and new york. because of sequester cuts all air traffic controllers may take one day off every two weeks. that means most towers will lose one controller every day maybe more. here in the bay area today, sfo and manetta san jose experienced no delays. sources at sfo said four employees there were furloughed today. ktvu's deborah villalon was live as they rolled out furloughs there. >> reporter: this tower went dark over an hour ago. it's closed overnight. it will reopen at 6:00 a.m. for another busy day of small planes, business jets and commercial flights and fewer controllers to manage the mix. >>> a rise in airlines prepared for take off to los angeles. one of nine flights keeping this santa rosa terminal busy today under the watchful eye of the tower. down by at least one controller, maybe two. the one who answered said he was too busy to talk about it. >> who knows, today was the first d
. >>> here at home faa furloughs of air traffic controllers began today but the real test is tomorrow. the first business day of the week. delays could run for hours at major hubs such as atlanta and new york. because of sequester cuts all air traffic controllers may take one day off every two weeks. that means most towers will lose one controller every day maybe more. here in the bay area today, sfo and manetta san jose experienced no delays. sources at sfo said four employees there...
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also today, i did check in with oakland airport, a spokesperson said they have no faa employees being furloughed. so he doesn't expect issues. and at san jose mineta, a spokesperson said they've seen a handful delays because of these budget cuts. live this morning at sfo, alex savidge, ktvu channel 2 news. >> thank you. >>> homicide detectives in oakland are searching for crews after a man was found dead on the sidewalk earlier this morning. the unidentified man was found on 90th avenue near g street. a woman told ktvu news she heard gunshots in the area around 3:00. police have not said how the man died or if there's a lead on suspects. this was oakland's 5 homicide of the year -- 58th homicide of the year. >>> rosemary is back soon with more on the warm weather and the reason a mall in the south bay was evacuated this morning. >>> a gas leak this morning near san jose's valley mall triggered a voluntary evacuation. it's been capped. things are back to normal. around 8:15 a construction crew digging in the area cut through the 1 1 sl. 4 pipe. >>> at this hour, dozens of workers are i
also today, i did check in with oakland airport, a spokesperson said they have no faa employees being furloughed. so he doesn't expect issues. and at san jose mineta, a spokesperson said they've seen a handful delays because of these budget cuts. live this morning at sfo, alex savidge, ktvu channel 2 news. >> thank you. >>> homicide detectives in oakland are searching for crews after a man was found dead on the sidewalk earlier this morning. the unidentified man was found on 90th...
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planning to fly sometime soony why the faa says today is the first day travelers will really feel the effects. >>> we'll get to the latest on the boston investigation in a moment. >>> first developing news overnight in washington state. at least five people were killed by gunfire at an apartment building in a suburb south of seattle. among the dead a suspect who was shot by police officers on the scene. another two bodies found in the parking lot and two more bodies were found inside the building. we'll bring you the updates on this latest gun tragedy as we get them. >>> bells will ring at 2:50 to mark one week since the deadly marathon bombings struck and according to investigators the lone surviving suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, is responding to questioning. under heavy guard in the hospital he is undergoing brief rounds of interrogation apparently responding by writing his answers. the 19-year-old was shot through the neck in what some have speculated may have been a suicide attempt. despite largely republican calls to have him held as an enemy combatant, he could face federal charge
planning to fly sometime soony why the faa says today is the first day travelers will really feel the effects. >>> we'll get to the latest on the boston investigation in a moment. >>> first developing news overnight in washington state. at least five people were killed by gunfire at an apartment building in a suburb south of seattle. among the dead a suspect who was shot by police officers on the scene. another two bodies found in the parking lot and two more bodies were found...
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the faa approved a redesigned battery system last week. boeing may be able to resume several flights within a week. >> there is no rest tonight for people in two midwest earn states hit hard by heavy rain and flooded. in saint louis, missouri today makeshift levies barely held back and the illinois rivers filled its banks this morning flooding 70 homes in small town of spring bay. across the midwest people are piling up sandbags around homes or businesses in north dakota convoy 500 semis filled with sandbags is on its way to flood soaked towns. a landslide is forced to southern california family out of their hillside home. a chunk of ground gave about 30 feet wide gave way under this sand bern dean know home. the ground beneath the garage and patio slid 300 feet down the hill. the owners had a retaining wall installed but that also collapsed. fire officials say a ruptured water pipe may have triggered the landslides, no other homes in the neighborhood have been effected by that slide. >> now, there's no that i guarantee you these houses a
the faa approved a redesigned battery system last week. boeing may be able to resume several flights within a week. >> there is no rest tonight for people in two midwest earn states hit hard by heavy rain and flooded. in saint louis, missouri today makeshift levies barely held back and the illinois rivers filled its banks this morning flooding 70 homes in small town of spring bay. across the midwest people are piling up sandbags around homes or businesses in north dakota convoy 500 semis...
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. >>> the fight over faa cut backs is heating up in washington. as ktvu kyla campbell reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom lawmakers are pointing fingers. kyla. >> reporter: pam, some california airports especially lax has seen numerous delays this week but some republican senators say the faa furloughs and resulting flight delays are a manufactured crisis. the faa reported more than 1600 flight delays sunday and monday due specifically to staffing reductions. i just heard back from my faa contact to get the latest numbers of delays for tuesday and she expects those by 8:00 a.m. pacific. some o on the airline cannot -- weather and other factors play a role. lawmakers accuse the faa of not telling them the whole story last week. >> there were many options that the faa itself and the department of transportation as a whole has to avoid this impact. >> other republicans say the white house wanted these faa cuts to impact people nation- wide. i'll explain why when i see you next. live in washington, kyla campbell ktvu channel 2 news. >>> at a de
. >>> the fight over faa cut backs is heating up in washington. as ktvu kyla campbell reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom lawmakers are pointing fingers. kyla. >> reporter: pam, some california airports especially lax has seen numerous delays this week but some republican senators say the faa furloughs and resulting flight delays are a manufactured crisis. the faa reported more than 1600 flight delays sunday and monday due specifically to staffing reductions. i just heard...
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. >>> plus the flight delays caused by faa furloughs. why some republicans say it's all part of the white house strategy. >>> plus the new occupation of former cia director david petraeus. [ male announcer ] fact: the 100% electric nissan leaf... is more fun than ever. sees better than ever. ♪ charges faster. and will charge. cool. and heat. from your phone. fact: leaf never needs gas. ever. good for the world. built in america. now, leaf's an easier choice than ever. ♪ shop at choosenissan.com. ♪ shop at choosenissan.com. i'm detecting high levels of happiness. luscious locks there's an entire land here...with living cars. now this is flying... with style. great glittering galaxies. disneyland resort just got happier, see it all with a 3-day park hopper ticket. i now appear to be lost in a deep dark cave... >>> welcome back to ktvu channel 2 morning news. it's 6:13. travelers in california and around the country are feeling the effects of the faa furloughs. ktvu kyla campbell reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom lawmakers ar
. >>> plus the flight delays caused by faa furloughs. why some republicans say it's all part of the white house strategy. >>> plus the new occupation of former cia director david petraeus. [ male announcer ] fact: the 100% electric nissan leaf... is more fun than ever. sees better than ever. ♪ charges faster. and will charge. cool. and heat. from your phone. fact: leaf never needs gas. ever. good for the world. built in america. now, leaf's an easier choice than ever. ♪...
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faa officials have declined to comment on e suit. livet sfo, elissa harrington, kpix 5. >> thank you. earlier this month, the faa delayed the closure of control towers at 149 airports until june. >>> checking bay area headlines this morning, richmond police are searching for two gunmen who shot and injured a man on saturday night on griffin drive. police found the victim in his car. they say the man was targeted. witnesses say the suspects got away in a white suv shortly after the shooting. that was around 8 p.m. on saturday. >>> in hayward a young man who was shot has died. the 26-year-old man was shot saturday around 10 p.m. in the driveway of a home on franklin avenue. he was taken to a hospital for emergency treatment but died of his injuries yesterday. so far, police have no suspects. >>> in alameda, a coast guard cutter has returned home greeted by joyous families yesterday. they spent three months in wateuthe california. mbers resc on a sailboat and raided a boat with more than 2 tons of marijuana. >>> he had his birthday off
faa officials have declined to comment on e suit. livet sfo, elissa harrington, kpix 5. >> thank you. earlier this month, the faa delayed the closure of control towers at 149 airports until june. >>> checking bay area headlines this morning, richmond police are searching for two gunmen who shot and injured a man on saturday night on griffin drive. police found the victim in his car. they say the man was targeted. witnesses say the suspects got away in a white suv shortly after...
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. >>> faa is banning all aircraft except for other equipment in two miles where the two explosions happened yesterday. the no fly zone reaches up to 3,000 feet and the restrictions do not affect flights in logan airport, no word on when the ban will be lifted. and into the ocean he is now describing what he felt. it dragged down the plane and he tried to regain control instead the plane belly flopped under the water and all passengers survived that crash. >>> sometime soon, billions of creepy crawlly things will be swarming the east coast. that is what they sound like if you have not heard of them, cicadas. every year billions emerge from underground to meat. starting from this area to north korea they make a screeching sound by rubbing on their abdomen in hopes of attracting a female. they sound like loud electric transformers. i have been to the midwest. >> time now 4:55, -- >> say that again, billions of them. >> it sounds like a horror flick doesn't it? >> yes. good morning everybody. we will start in the east and we don't have a lot going on. we hope it stays this way. this is a look a
. >>> faa is banning all aircraft except for other equipment in two miles where the two explosions happened yesterday. the no fly zone reaches up to 3,000 feet and the restrictions do not affect flights in logan airport, no word on when the ban will be lifted. and into the ocean he is now describing what he felt. it dragged down the plane and he tried to regain control instead the plane belly flopped under the water and all passengers survived that crash. >>> sometime soon,...
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neil: a republican senator and a democratic senator have the same question for the faa, if our budget is bigger, why are the delays getting longer, they want to know if you cut, why controllers and towers at the top of the list. not ought of the other stuff under -- not all other stuff under. senator, quickly garnering a lot of support for what he is calls protect our skies act. you want to know, look, we understand the sequestration cuts but we question why these cuts? >> absolutely. no business person would make the choice to cut things that effect their customers the most. why does government make that decision unless there is some motivation to get the consequences to be as dramatic and difficult as possible. neil: they say they have no choice. i don't know who is telling trulgingtruth, i have looked in, they say with these cuts they are almost preordained, these are cuts to some everyone agreed. i don't remember talking to a losalot of your colleagues at te time that sequestration would include automatically air traffic controllers, maybe i missed something? >> absolutely not the
neil: a republican senator and a democratic senator have the same question for the faa, if our budget is bigger, why are the delays getting longer, they want to know if you cut, why controllers and towers at the top of the list. not ought of the other stuff under -- not all other stuff under. senator, quickly garnering a lot of support for what he is calls protect our skies act. you want to know, look, we understand the sequestration cuts but we question why these cuts? >> absolutely. no...
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for the faa the numbers don't add up. their work load has been decreasing and yet they didn't make the necessary changes to prepare for the sequestration. which they've known since last fall was coming. that's why it's just politics as usual in d.c. >> neil: so these cuts that the white house was referring to that took effect formally yesterday, aren't real? >> the cuts are real all right but the problem for the federal aviation administration is their real work load has been falling or forever a decade, and when they were told they had to do the sequestration last fall, logically you would have prepared and put your work force in place at atlanta and new york, and not at branson, missouri, which averages less than one flight per hour. they didn't do that. they were counting -- i was in washington, dc for almost 15 years. you expect things to work out, expect to never have to cut. but the cuts are here but they don't get it. for next year's budget they asked for 100 more people, and three extra billion dollars for securit
for the faa the numbers don't add up. their work load has been decreasing and yet they didn't make the necessary changes to prepare for the sequestration. which they've known since last fall was coming. that's why it's just politics as usual in d.c. >> neil: so these cuts that the white house was referring to that took effect formally yesterday, aren't real? >> the cuts are real all right but the problem for the federal aviation administration is their real work load has been...
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there is real question as to whether or not the faa actually has a choice. >> the faa unlike other agencies is personnel heavy and, in the end you can not avoid, when 70% of your budget of your operating budget is personnel, you can not avoid when the cuts are as deep as they are in the sequester the kind of actions that are taken, these furloughs. that is an unfortunate fact of arbitrary, across-the-board cuts like this. >> the faa is playing politics and something they do very well because they can rely on their constituent groups, airlines and airport operators to run to congress in an attempt to put pressure on them to throw more money at the problem. >> so we have about a dozen flight delays here out of national airport, many of them going into new york area airports. it is tough to differentiate whether it is a problem with air traffic control or flying system you will get delays. you can't go into this assuming before sequestration and furloughs there were no delays at any airport. trying to figure out what the exact impact is rather difficult. however the airline industry said is co
there is real question as to whether or not the faa actually has a choice. >> the faa unlike other agencies is personnel heavy and, in the end you can not avoid, when 70% of your budget of your operating budget is personnel, you can not avoid when the cuts are as deep as they are in the sequester the kind of actions that are taken, these furloughs. that is an unfortunate fact of arbitrary, across-the-board cuts like this. >> the faa is playing politics and something they do very...
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. >>> an order from the faa, the problem that has prompted inspections of some of the busiest aircraft models in the air. >> our chief meteorologist bill martin tracking a change of the weather. he's back with the complete bay area forecast. >> up first developing news, the ktvu camera has just arrived at the scene >>> we have developing news from san jose at this hour an elderly woman has died in a three alarm house fire tonight and another person is missing. these are live pictures here from the home on south daniel way located near highway 17 and interstate 280. authorities say firefighters pulled the woman out of the house but unfortunately were not able to save her. another person may still be inside. the strong winds are making it difficult for firefighters and they had their hands full trying to keep the flames from spreading to other homes. >> the federal aviation administration has ordered inspections for all 737s nationwide. that plane is considered the workhorse of the airline industry. boeing makes three different versions of the 737 and more than 1,000 of those jets are cu
. >>> an order from the faa, the problem that has prompted inspections of some of the busiest aircraft models in the air. >> our chief meteorologist bill martin tracking a change of the weather. he's back with the complete bay area forecast. >> up first developing news, the ktvu camera has just arrived at the scene >>> we have developing news from san jose at this hour an elderly woman has died in a three alarm house fire tonight and another person is missing....
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we expect to hear from the head of the faa any minute. we'll get the latest reaction when i see you next hour. live in washington, kyla campbell, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> newly-released documents show the obama administration has known for years about financial problems at fisker auto mowive in an time -- auto motive in anaheim. the electric carmaker was sent a letter saying they were not meeting the milestones set up as a condition of getting the loan. it took another leer for the federal government to cut -- year for the federal government to cut off their funding. a hearing is being held about the loan to that troubled automaker. >>> the house of representatives will vote today on a republican plan to provide more funding to cover people with preexisting conditions under president obama's healthcare reform. starting next year, the act will ban insurance companies not accepting those with preexisting conditions. the republicans want to divert $4 billion from a prevention program in the healthcare reform plan. but democrats and the white
we expect to hear from the head of the faa any minute. we'll get the latest reaction when i see you next hour. live in washington, kyla campbell, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> newly-released documents show the obama administration has known for years about financial problems at fisker auto mowive in an time -- auto motive in anaheim. the electric carmaker was sent a letter saying they were not meeting the milestones set up as a condition of getting the loan. it took another leer for the...
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republicans say the faa has been mismanaged. there's clearly irritation that 10% of the country's air-traffic controllers have been furloughed and some suggestedlet money should come from elsewhere in the faa budget. >> these are all bad choices. i acknowledge that. but in order to comply with the guidelines of the sequester law, we have to take these actions. >> i wish you would have told us earlier so we had a chance to plan. >> lawmakers told him they knew the cuts were coming but only get the details of how they'll be carried out last week. >> shepard: with everybody in the country screaming and yelling and 3-hour delays, my guess is they're going to figure something out. >> well, that's what everybody's waiting for. which side will blink first. one lawmaker representing the chicago area, a democrat, said what about the idea if you avoided the nation's largest and busiest airports, think o'hare, thinking that would be good for the traveling public. >> with all due respective a hard time believing that atlanta, chicago, and s
republicans say the faa has been mismanaged. there's clearly irritation that 10% of the country's air-traffic controllers have been furloughed and some suggestedlet money should come from elsewhere in the faa budget. >> these are all bad choices. i acknowledge that. but in order to comply with the guidelines of the sequester law, we have to take these actions. >> i wish you would have told us earlier so we had a chance to plan. >> lawmakers told him they knew the cuts were...
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. >>> an order from the faa, the problem that has prompted inspections of some of the busiest aircraft models in the air. >> our chief meteorologist bill martin tracking a change of the weather. he's back with the complete bay area forecast. >> up first developing news, the ktvu camera has just arrived at the scene of this house fire. what we learned from firefighters about a woman pulled from inside. we are all reflections of the people who came before us. at new york life, everything we do is to help you keep good going. ♪ [ engine revs ] [ female announcer ] small... [ engine revs ] wicked... ♪ and now... ♪ topless. ♪ the fiat 500 abarth cabrio. ♪ >>> we have developing news from san jose at this hour an elderly woman has died in a three alarm house fire tonight and another person is missing. these are live pictures here from the home on south daniel way located near highway 17 and interstate 280. authorities say firefighters pulled the woman out of the house but unfortunately were not able to save her. another person may still be inside. the strong winds are making it dif
. >>> an order from the faa, the problem that has prompted inspections of some of the busiest aircraft models in the air. >> our chief meteorologist bill martin tracking a change of the weather. he's back with the complete bay area forecast. >> up first developing news, the ktvu camera has just arrived at the scene of this house fire. what we learned from firefighters about a woman pulled from inside. we are all reflections of the people who came before us. at new york...
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yesterday alone the faa said there were more than 400 flight delays nationwide. 47,000 faa workers must take furlough days, including 15,000 air traffic controllers, losing one day of work every other week. that's a 10% reduction in staffing. >> when 70% of your budget of your operating budget is personnel, you cannot avoid when the cuts are as deep as they are in the sequester, the kinds of actions that are taken. >> today the transportation department says it's considering a request from the airline industry to temporarily suspend the delay rule in light of these furloughs. that rule prohibits airlines from keeping passengers on the tarmac for more than three hours. here in the bay area, an average of three air traffic controllers are scheduled to be furloughed in san francisco, oakland and san jose. officials say so far they haven't seen significant delays due to the furloughs here. however, the faa tells us los angeles international experienced delays of more than three hours for some arriving flights last night and that ended up causing delays for three flights from los angeles to
yesterday alone the faa said there were more than 400 flight delays nationwide. 47,000 faa workers must take furlough days, including 15,000 air traffic controllers, losing one day of work every other week. that's a 10% reduction in staffing. >> when 70% of your budget of your operating budget is personnel, you cannot avoid when the cuts are as deep as they are in the sequester, the kinds of actions that are taken. >> today the transportation department says it's considering a...
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the faa called for two furlough days for every two-week period to cut more than $600 million from the budget. airlines filed a lawsuit on friday to stop the furlough of air traffic controllers saying the cuts will result in delays up to an hour at major airports and hubs throughout the country. travel industry analysts say what's happening is political gamesmanship. >> the faa was shut down a few years ago. flights weren't affected. it seems to me like there is a request or directive out there to take steps so passengers will be inconvenienced and they will call their elected officials to get them to take action. >> reporter: now let's see what's happeninat airports around the this is live picture of mineta san jose international airport. i found three delays there this morning. the longest, 30 minutes. only a couple of 10-minute delays in oakland. and a few delays here at sfo, as well. now, even if sfo avoids furloughs, passengers could still feel the pinch because of the domino effect from delays at connecting airports. and speaking about those delays i found this morning, it's uncl
the faa called for two furlough days for every two-week period to cut more than $600 million from the budget. airlines filed a lawsuit on friday to stop the furlough of air traffic controllers saying the cuts will result in delays up to an hour at major airports and hubs throughout the country. travel industry analysts say what's happening is political gamesmanship. >> the faa was shut down a few years ago. flights weren't affected. it seems to me like there is a request or directive out...
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. >>> we just learned that american airlines has asked the faa to ground all of its flights until 5:00 p.m. eastern time due to a computer problem. some passengers we understand are stuck on planes. others cannot make reservations. a smokeperson at mineta says one flight to dallas was delayed about an hour. four flights are being held until 2:00 this afternoon at sfo. we've called the oakland airport to check in but have not heard back yet. >>> well, a lot of sunshine here. but still some off-and-on snow in the somewhere nevada. two forecasts here. one in our own backyard has really cold conditions this morning. but now sunny and nice. a little breezy, about 25, 20 miles an hour. 25, napa airport. everything is clearing. last hour within the hour, truckee reported some snow and also in tahoe valley, some snow. the system is holding on along the crest of the sierra. but for the bay area, everything is clear skies. it was cold this morning, though. had some upper 20s and 30s. everything looks good right now. the fog has been pushed out to sea. the clouds have been pushed out to sea. it w
. >>> we just learned that american airlines has asked the faa to ground all of its flights until 5:00 p.m. eastern time due to a computer problem. some passengers we understand are stuck on planes. others cannot make reservations. a smokeperson at mineta says one flight to dallas was delayed about an hour. four flights are being held until 2:00 this afternoon at sfo. we've called the oakland airport to check in but have not heard back yet. >>> well, a lot of sunshine here....
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the faa has said that planes will have to take off and land less frequently so as not to overload the remaining controllers on duty. that will translate o potential longer lines at the airport. most pass injures we spoke to this morning say they are against the furloughs. >> congress needs to get their act together and maybe they need to give up some of their assistance that they seem to have so many of in washington. and stop bothering the normal every day people with cutting back here and there. >> reporter: yesterday sfo and san jose reported no problems. but oakland did experience some delays for flights out of los angeles. sources inside the air traffic control tower here said four workers were furloughed yesterday. and these furloughs are expected to last through september. pilot and airline organizations are suing the faa to stop the furloughs and urging the public to speak up if they experience the headaches and hassles as a result of these furloughs. we are going to be keeping an eye on all of the flights here. we'll let you know if you see any major delays or cancellations.
the faa has said that planes will have to take off and land less frequently so as not to overload the remaining controllers on duty. that will translate o potential longer lines at the airport. most pass injures we spoke to this morning say they are against the furloughs. >> congress needs to get their act together and maybe they need to give up some of their assistance that they seem to have so many of in washington. and stop bothering the normal every day people with cutting back here...
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. >> as the faa began furloughing air traffic controllers and the flight delays began. the finger pointing quickly followed. >> as a result of administration's poor planning, i would argue political motives, thousands of people were stuck on tarmacs over the last few days. >> congress had an opportunity but republicans made a choice. and this is a result of a choice they made to embrace the sequester as, and i'm quoting republicans, as a victory for the tea party and a home run. >> if the blame was partisan, the pain was not. long lines and missed connections raised bipartisan concerns with republican and democratic senators asking the transportation secretary and head of the faa how much funding do you need to avoid furloughing air traffic controllers and to keep the contract air traffic control towers open and what could you cut from other accounts to avoid or reduced air traffic controller furloughs and contract closures and there were bipartisan proposed solutions. >> what i believe is there ought to be postponement of these furloughs to give all of us a chance to r
. >> as the faa began furloughing air traffic controllers and the flight delays began. the finger pointing quickly followed. >> as a result of administration's poor planning, i would argue political motives, thousands of people were stuck on tarmacs over the last few days. >> congress had an opportunity but republicans made a choice. and this is a result of a choice they made to embrace the sequester as, and i'm quoting republicans, as a victory for the tea party and a home...
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reporter: airline and pilot organizations are trying to stop the furloughs from happening by suing the faa but they are here and commercial flights really move flatly throughout the united states yesterday. but the real test will come together. that is because air traffic -- because of budget cuts all air traffic controllers must take one day off every two weeks. that means they will lose one traffic controller every day. santa rosa airport they were down at least one controller yesterday. folks there said they were concerned about safety and felt the government could have made cuts elsewhere. >> we are looking at a tiny percentage that needs if be reduced. it's ridiculous they can't do that. you and i can certainly if we want to take $5 off of our spending for lunch over a month, it's easy for us to do. >> reporter: yesterday sfo and ma theta san jose reported no problems. sources inside the air traffic control tower here said four workers were furloughed yesterday. we still have to find out how many are furloughed today. meanwhile 100 contract towers in small airports across the country
reporter: airline and pilot organizations are trying to stop the furloughs from happening by suing the faa but they are here and commercial flights really move flatly throughout the united states yesterday. but the real test will come together. that is because air traffic -- because of budget cuts all air traffic controllers must take one day off every two weeks. that means they will lose one traffic controller every day. santa rosa airport they were down at least one controller yesterday....
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. >>> boeing taking steps now to get those dreamliner jets up in the air but today faa is asking why that problem was not noticed before. >>> secretary of homeland security janet napolitano is answering questions. the issues many want to ask her about. >>> we will have more on your morning commute and the bay area weather, stay tuned. good for the world. built in america. now, leaf's an easier choice than ever. ♪ shop at choosenissan.com. ♪ they have no idea what it was like before u-verse high speed internet. yeah, you couldn't just stream movies to a device like that. one time, i had to wait half a day to watch a movie. you watched movies?! i was lucky if i could watch a show. show?! man, i was happy to see a sneezing panda clip! trevor, have you eaten today? you sound a little grumpy. [ laughter ] [ male announcer ] connect all your wi-fi-enabled devices with u-verse high speed internet. rethink possible. how. >> welcome back. police say the two suspects were planning to derail a train traveling from toronto to new york. investigators believe they were receiving help from al q
. >>> boeing taking steps now to get those dreamliner jets up in the air but today faa is asking why that problem was not noticed before. >>> secretary of homeland security janet napolitano is answering questions. the issues many want to ask her about. >>> we will have more on your morning commute and the bay area weather, stay tuned. good for the world. built in america. now, leaf's an easier choice than ever. ♪ shop at choosenissan.com. ♪ they have no idea what...
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the faa said planes will have to take off and land more frequently. that would translate to potential longer lines at the airport. joining me is the spokesperson for sfo. can you give me an idea of how many travelers will be out on every given day or? >> what i can tell you, it's about a 10% of reduction. if i'm an air traffic controller, one of my days out of ten is reduced as the furlough. >> reporter: do you have any idea if this will impact the lines? >> i think where we might see some effect is more from the faa perspective. i don't know if it will affect the lines at the airport. but in terms of flight delays, if there's another airport that has congestion issues or staffing issues, even if we're fined locally, we may experience delays to and from the location. it's very much a nationwide issue. >> reporter: it's a juggling act for you. i think one of the things we can expect, there is a procedure we use and that requires an extra controller. not an issue today but if we have bad weather conditions, we might not be able to use that procedure. >>
the faa said planes will have to take off and land more frequently. that would translate to potential longer lines at the airport. joining me is the spokesperson for sfo. can you give me an idea of how many travelers will be out on every given day or? >> what i can tell you, it's about a 10% of reduction. if i'm an air traffic controller, one of my days out of ten is reduced as the furlough. >> reporter: do you have any idea if this will impact the lines? >> i think where we...
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the faa slashed the budget by more than $600 million. mark rosenker, a former ntsb nannal list and cbs responsibility says the delays could hit for hours. >>> we're going to see delays for the carriers, the passengers, and frankly i believe for the economy. >>> the country's largest pilots union and the airline is trade association are suing to stop the fur lou. asian markets were mostly higher. tokyo's nikkei added about 2% to a nearly 5-year high. hong kong's hang seng added a fraction. essentially major countries including apple, ford, exxonmobil, will release their earnings this week. it comes as they finish their worst week since november. the dow lost 317 points while nasdaq lofrt nearly 89. there's good news at the pump with a gallon of gas dropping 11 cents. the lung berg survey now finds the total. tulsa has the cheapest at $3.21 a gaon while chicago is the most expensive in the continental u.s. at 3.97. >>> oblivion beat the competition at the box office this weekend. the sigh-fie thriller stars tom cruise as one of the last hu
the faa slashed the budget by more than $600 million. mark rosenker, a former ntsb nannal list and cbs responsibility says the delays could hit for hours. >>> we're going to see delays for the carriers, the passengers, and frankly i believe for the economy. >>> the country's largest pilots union and the airline is trade association are suing to stop the fur lou. asian markets were mostly higher. tokyo's nikkei added about 2% to a nearly 5-year high. hong kong's hang seng added...
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faa's operations budget is personnel. the faa must furlough 47,000 employees for up to 11 days between now and the end of the fiscal year. >> bill: the bottom line is you can't have it both ways. you cannot say we want the sequester. we're going to let the sequester happen. and then bitch and moan every time the sequester has a real impact in the real world. which it is happening. before this, maybe it was just in areas where most people who are -- upper middle class or wealthy, didn't feel any pain. programs like head start or food stamps or meals on wheels, right. didn't affect me. because i got a good life. well now you know, you're getting on a plane to go somewhere and you have a two-hour delay serves you right. only one way to get rid of this which is get rid of the sequester and have some sensible cuts not just these mad across-the-board cuts and if republicans really don't like what's happening, get rid of the sequester. one other issue immigration. immigration reform has a head of steam because there are -- this
faa's operations budget is personnel. the faa must furlough 47,000 employees for up to 11 days between now and the end of the fiscal year. >> bill: the bottom line is you can't have it both ways. you cannot say we want the sequester. we're going to let the sequester happen. and then bitch and moan every time the sequester has a real impact in the real world. which it is happening. before this, maybe it was just in areas where most people who are -- upper middle class or wealthy, didn't...
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on the first day of faa furloughs, there were delays. but the airlines saying don't blame us. the biggest delays hit los angeles international first. last night the federal aviation administration reported a staffing problem causing some arriving flights to run an average of three hours and seven minutes late. >> we're going to crater the entire system. orter: the nation's airlines and biggest pilots union say it points to troubles ahead. their plan to furlough air traffic controllers, forcing them to tay home one day every other week will bring the system to a grinding halt. >> it will be like having hurricane sandy in the north and hurricane katrina in the south at the same time. >> reporter: so they're suing the faa to postpone the furloughs but the faa says it's the only way to slash $637 million from its budget, cuts required by congress. the busiest airports are expected to take the hardest hits. maximum delays at atlanta's hartsfield-jackson could reach 3 1/2 hours. chicago's o'hare, more than two. and at new york's laguardia, nearly an hour and a half. >> when your air
on the first day of faa furloughs, there were delays. but the airlines saying don't blame us. the biggest delays hit los angeles international first. last night the federal aviation administration reported a staffing problem causing some arriving flights to run an average of three hours and seven minutes late. >> we're going to crater the entire system. orter: the nation's airlines and biggest pilots union say it points to troubles ahead. their plan to furlough air traffic controllers,...
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what the head of the faa is telling lawmakers next. -frplts we are here in the control room. a brand-new hour coming your way right now including the very latest on the boston terror massacre. a live report straight ahead. packers take over the -- hacker take over the twitter tpoerbgt the "associated press." reports that the white house have been attacked leaving the stock market to temporarily plunge, is this a preview of cyber terrorism? experts weigh in. one day before the dedication of the president bush library we'll talk to the man who whraus the 43rd president's official white house photographer as ph and breaking news happens right now. jenna: well tomorrow to a new hour of "happening now," everyone. i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. a team of u.s. investigators is in president province of dagestan located in a region known for islamic fanaticism where they are interviewing the parents of of the boston bombing suspects. this is developing as we gerting a better per of the brother believed to be the mastermind behind the terror attack. we have live team fox coverage f
what the head of the faa is telling lawmakers next. -frplts we are here in the control room. a brand-new hour coming your way right now including the very latest on the boston terror massacre. a live report straight ahead. packers take over the -- hacker take over the twitter tpoerbgt the "associated press." reports that the white house have been attacked leaving the stock market to temporarily plunge, is this a preview of cyber terrorism? experts weigh in. one day before the...
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no dream liners can fly until the faa approves the system. >> time now 7:54. within the next month a bicycle beromiter will be installed on market street. all to encourage more people to ride their bikes. installed on the south side of market street between 9th and 10th street. it's going to be 7.5 feet tall. it will be able to show you the number of bicycles that go by. >> i can't ride to work unfortunately. >> a little early. >> 2:30 in the morning. but i do ride my bike when i can. a little beach cruiser . >> i know you do. this morning we have a bunch of slow traffic. i want to mention 5:80 is still a mess. you are wondering why. we had an earlier truck accident. news chopper 2 did take these pictures. it has since been towed away. the two left lanes were the only three open. the traffic is a huge mess coming out of the pass for miles and miles heading west. you can see some of these pictures. unfortunately remains that way. take a look at a live picture. now down to 20 minute delay. we've seen traffic and talked about that crash. 880 traffic southbound. i
no dream liners can fly until the faa approves the system. >> time now 7:54. within the next month a bicycle beromiter will be installed on market street. all to encourage more people to ride their bikes. installed on the south side of market street between 9th and 10th street. it's going to be 7.5 feet tall. it will be able to show you the number of bicycles that go by. >> i can't ride to work unfortunately. >> a little early. >> 2:30 in the morning. but i do ride my...
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faa has asked they halt the flights until 5:00, reagan international has several cancelled flights from american right now. >>> a teenage girl accused of sexting in northern virginia, why some say there was a double standard in the way she was published. >> everything was loud, i heard the explosion, called 911, i was waiting for the firefighters to come. >>> the fight to reach three college students trapped as the house went up in flames around them. >>> and temperatures will continue to warm as we finish off the workweek. but cooler air arrives for the weekend. your complete forecast coming up >>> honoring the victims of virginia tech, the solemn . >> neighbors in arlington say they watched as two women jumped from the second floor of a burning home. the fire started this morning along north dinwiddy street. the flames were so intense it took more than 50 firefighters to get it under control. three people were home at the time. crews rushed two of them to the hospital with burns. the fire trapped a third person, samantha pazzo in the basement of the house. >> when i saw the smoke outs
faa has asked they halt the flights until 5:00, reagan international has several cancelled flights from american right now. >>> a teenage girl accused of sexting in northern virginia, why some say there was a double standard in the way she was published. >> everything was loud, i heard the explosion, called 911, i was waiting for the firefighters to come. >>> the fight to reach three college students trapped as the house went up in flames around them. >>> and...
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>> possible options for travelers now that it is day three of the faa furloughs longer airport wait time, longer tarmac wait time perhaps canceled flights all together. now they have filed a motion to place a moratorium on the rule saying airlines cannot let passengers remain on the tarmac for more than 3 hours. the motion notes 6700 flights will be delayed daily at 13 of the busiest airports now that the furloughs have started f. you add bad weather on ton of that it could get pretty ugly. if the tarmac rule does stay in place airlines may be forced to cancel flights and significantly disrupt travel plans. because they don't have the appropriate staff to go deal with the travel disruption. >> they are telling passengers there's always the bus. >> college, is it worth it or not worth it? >> there is a growing number of people saying it's not worth it. no longer guarantees success. even a good enough job where you make enough money to pay back your student loan. the average college grad is graduating with 28,000 in debt. that's why some high school grads are starting their own businesses
>> possible options for travelers now that it is day three of the faa furloughs longer airport wait time, longer tarmac wait time perhaps canceled flights all together. now they have filed a motion to place a moratorium on the rule saying airlines cannot let passengers remain on the tarmac for more than 3 hours. the motion notes 6700 flights will be delayed daily at 13 of the busiest airports now that the furloughs have started f. you add bad weather on ton of that it could get pretty...
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the ntsb wants to know out prob -- how problems with the batteries went unnoticed by the faa and boeing inspectors during test flights. the problem grounded the jets three months ago. the faa approved a redesigned battery system and this week boeing is install the batteries and dreamliners that happen in operation around the world. small knives are still banned on planes. the tsa reversed its decision to start allowing small knives on board passenger planes. that would have happened this thursday. tsa is now saying it needs more time to reveal all of the public feedback on the decision. unions for flight attendants and pilots loudly protested against the change. many passengers say they really never liked the idea of allowing planes on -- knives on planes. >>> 8:19. some bay area schools are seeing a rise in bomb threats. now, just yesterday, a student at san francisco state found a suspicious package in a music and theater building. inside the package, a note saying a bomb was about to go off. now, police investigated the building, their search proved that threat was a hoax. >> it made
the ntsb wants to know out prob -- how problems with the batteries went unnoticed by the faa and boeing inspectors during test flights. the problem grounded the jets three months ago. the faa approved a redesigned battery system and this week boeing is install the batteries and dreamliners that happen in operation around the world. small knives are still banned on planes. the tsa reversed its decision to start allowing small knives on board passenger planes. that would have happened this...
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some lawmakers complained that the faa did not say how all of this would be implemented until last week. >> we have been talking about reduction in available controller hours of 10 pierce for months. >> you didn't tell them which airports, which airlines? >> we told them that they should expect significant impacts at major hub facilities. >> well, lat at this da. everyone new that. >> now w. now the f.a.a. saying more than 125,000 flight delays yesterday alone were attributed to staff reductions due to furloughs, lawmakers are likely feeling pressure from unhappy constituents. among the suggestions today, targeting the furloughs to less busy airports but the f.a.a. says it cannot pick winners and losers, it's also been suggested it could cut less important parts of the agency's budget which the white house says is not correct. >> the law does not allow for the kind of flexibility when it comes to the f. auburn hills budget that some of these members, republicans principally, all claim it has. they should read the law. they wrote it, they should know what's in it. >> there are a number o
some lawmakers complained that the faa did not say how all of this would be implemented until last week. >> we have been talking about reduction in available controller hours of 10 pierce for months. >> you didn't tell them which airports, which airlines? >> we told them that they should expect significant impacts at major hub facilities. >> well, lat at this da. everyone new that. >> now w. now the f.a.a. saying more than 125,000 flight delays yesterday alone were...
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. >> the faa was just down a few years ago, flights weren't affected. it seems to me like there is a request for directive out there to take steps so that passengers will be calling their elected officials to get them to take nation. >> gretchen: new york and washington, d.c. already experiencing delays and longer wait times for security. the fcc decided not to fine red sox slugger big poppy david ortiz for dropping the f bomb before saturday's game at fenway park. the fcc chair ss he won't fine him because he was describing boston's resilience in the face of tragedy and speaking from the heart. it was the team's first home game since the terrorist attack at the boston marathon. if your kids were watching, it wasn't exactly pg, but anyway. >> brian: maybe janet jackson should have tried that. >> steve: or there wasn't a wad robe malfunction. >> gretchen: that case went on and on before they ruled. >>> new defendants recording the boston bombing suspects. there are unconfirmed reports that the 19-year-old is awake and responding to questions. previously
. >> the faa was just down a few years ago, flights weren't affected. it seems to me like there is a request for directive out there to take steps so that passengers will be calling their elected officials to get them to take nation. >> gretchen: new york and washington, d.c. already experiencing delays and longer wait times for security. the fcc decided not to fine red sox slugger big poppy david ortiz for dropping the f bomb before saturday's game at fenway park. the fcc chair ss...
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the faa approved friday a boeing plant to encase the 787 of lithium ion batteries in a steel box. install new battery chargers and add a duct to vent gases directly outside the aircraft that could cause overheating. we have a look at the golden gate bridge preconceived their ride on was found 80. moving well no problems out there in relatively clear as you look above the skies. are going to have air with another update on the forecast coming up at 545. today expect to be the hottest day of the week. full details street ahead. look at them kids. [ sigh ] they have no idea what it was like before u-verse high speed internet. yeah, you couldn't just stream movies to a device like that. one time, i had to wait half a day to watch a movie. you watched movies?! i was lucky if i could watch a show. show?! man, i was happy to see a sneezing panda clip! trevor, have you eaten today? you sound a little grumpy. [ laughter ] [ male announcer ] connect all your wi-fi-enabled devices with u-verse high speed internet. rethink possible. is more fun than ever. sees better than ever. ♪ charges fa
the faa approved friday a boeing plant to encase the 787 of lithium ion batteries in a steel box. install new battery chargers and add a duct to vent gases directly outside the aircraft that could cause overheating. we have a look at the golden gate bridge preconceived their ride on was found 80. moving well no problems out there in relatively clear as you look above the skies. are going to have air with another update on the forecast coming up at 545. today expect to be the hottest day of the...
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. >>> well, the faa is also banning all planes and helicopters except for emergency equipment from flying offer the area where the two explosions happened yesterday in boston. that no-fly zone reaches up to 3,000 feet high. it extends about two miles in every direction on the ground. the restrictions, however, do not affect flights in and out of boston's logan air. now, stay with us again on "mornings on 2" for the very late et on the bombings and the investigation in boston. we'll be tracking. very latest developments on the fbi investigation coming up in a live report from boston in our next hour. >>> 7:37. tragedy hit a san jose family overnight. a 7-year-old girl was killed in a house fire. ktvu's janine de la vega is at the house now and just talked to the little girl's grandmother. janine? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. a person who lives around the corner came up to talk to the grandmother who says she's a very strong woman. she wanted to leave flowers at the door. the family is feeling numb. they can't believe their little girl is gone. firefighters found her body in a detached
. >>> well, the faa is also banning all planes and helicopters except for emergency equipment from flying offer the area where the two explosions happened yesterday in boston. that no-fly zone reaches up to 3,000 feet high. it extends about two miles in every direction on the ground. the restrictions, however, do not affect flights in and out of boston's logan air. now, stay with us again on "mornings on 2" for the very late et on the bombings and the investigation in boston....
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the faa arted furloughing air traffic controllers and other employees sunday. cascading delays held up flights at some of the busiest airports and in some cases up to many hos. > disgraced fmer new york ste congressman anthony weaner is tweeting once again launching a new account some two yea after his twier scandal that led to his political fall from grace. he resigned in 2011 after admitting to exchanging inappropriate messages with several women. his latest tweets stick to policy only asis name emerges in the field of potential candides for new york city mayor. >>> we all have dreams and this goat's dream is to be apparently a chicken? so far the impression is spot . ke a look. [ clucking ] so our obsessions with goats continues. and the noises they make. >> talking goats, singing goats. >> break out to bon jovi. weove the goats. >> take that act t vegas. >> mr. roker has a special guest. >> when that goat lays an e whh is what i do just about every day. carl leonard is here. >> 25,000 volunteers are going out in one day all day to give about a half million
the faa arted furloughing air traffic controllers and other employees sunday. cascading delays held up flights at some of the busiest airports and in some cases up to many hos. > disgraced fmer new york ste congressman anthony weaner is tweeting once again launching a new account some two yea after his twier scandal that led to his political fall from grace. he resigned in 2011 after admitting to exchanging inappropriate messages with several women. his latest tweets stick to policy only...
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. >> reporter: the faa is blaming the delays on across-the-board budget cuts which, it says, forced it on to furlough 15,000 air traffic controllers and other workers and were spacing out flights in the name of safety. several hundred flights delayed, less than the agency's prediction of 6,700 daily flight delays. but transportation secretary ray lahood warns abc, we might see an airplane apocalypse yet. >> we did not take into account weather activities. these delays could get extended beyond the 60 to 90 minutes. >> reporter: late monday, i decided to investigate the delays myself. taking a round-trip from miami -- not bad. taking off about 25 minutes late. to orlando -- it looks like we're about to take off about 50 minutes late. not too bad given the circumstances. and back. now, a lot of folks back in there gripe that probably the airports that the politicians and congressmen use, washington national, probably didn't have too many delays. it did. delays up to two hours. airline analysts say if this persists through the summer, we could see ticket prices start to rise. robin? >> we
. >> reporter: the faa is blaming the delays on across-the-board budget cuts which, it says, forced it on to furlough 15,000 air traffic controllers and other workers and were spacing out flights in the name of safety. several hundred flights delayed, less than the agency's prediction of 6,700 daily flight delays. but transportation secretary ray lahood warns abc, we might see an airplane apocalypse yet. >> we did not take into account weather activities. these delays could get...
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but the faa warns hart fields jackson, los angeles international, chicago o'hare will also experience longer delays because of the furloughs. it is, you know, your -- >> it affects the bottom line. >> your elected officials at work. now you're going to feel it, pack your patience. >> yep. >> pack your patience at the airport. >> thank you very much, christine. 24 minutes past the hour. proud milestone for the city of boston this morning. just nine days after the marathon bombing boylston street is reopening the public we are happy to report. and we are going to take you there live. the boys used double miles from their capital one venture card to fly home for the big family reunion. you must be garth's father? hello. mother. mother! traveling is easy with the venture card because you can fly any airline anytime. two words. double miles! this guy can act. wanna play dodge rock? oh, you guys! and with double miles you can actually use, you never miss the fun. beard growing contest and go! ♪ i win! what's in your wallet? but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can help make thi
but the faa warns hart fields jackson, los angeles international, chicago o'hare will also experience longer delays because of the furloughs. it is, you know, your -- >> it affects the bottom line. >> your elected officials at work. now you're going to feel it, pack your patience. >> yep. >> pack your patience at the airport. >> thank you very much, christine. 24 minutes past the hour. proud milestone for the city of boston this morning. just nine days after the...
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furloughs by the faa are the result of automatic, federal spending cuts imposed by the sequester. the fight over blame for it now in the senate. last night it was on the floor. democrat harry reid proposed to suspend the sequester and it was met with sharp opposition. >> we have created a situation where we are going to discomfort and inconvenience hundreds of thousands of american people on a political point because we can't cut any spending in washington. >> several senators are urging the obama administration to put off to furlough to give all sides to find other ways to handle the spending cus. >>> police in beverly hills looking for a driver behind a violent cage of road rage all captured on camera. the driver in a white bmw chased a man on the bicycle into an alley. rammed into him, and pinned him to a metal garbage bin. peels out in reverse with the cyclist still hanging on to the car. then speeds away. there it is again. ouch. police say the driver is going to face serious charges if and when he is caught. >> there was a small dispute, verbal argument initially. and then t
furloughs by the faa are the result of automatic, federal spending cuts imposed by the sequester. the fight over blame for it now in the senate. last night it was on the floor. democrat harry reid proposed to suspend the sequester and it was met with sharp opposition. >> we have created a situation where we are going to discomfort and inconvenience hundreds of thousands of american people on a political point because we can't cut any spending in washington. >> several senators are...
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faa warning in some cases passengers could see delays up to 90 minutes or more. that is nationwide. this is all part of the sequestration cuts imposed by congress in order try and save more than $600 million. we'll have a look at your local weather and traffic right after this break. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! ♪ wow. [ buzz ] delicious, right? yeah. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... ♪ well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? bee happy. bee healthy. with clusters of flakes and o's. oh, ho ho... it's the honey sweetness. i...i mean, you...love. >>> current temperatures already showing numbers closing in on 80 around livermore, fairfield. some of the warmer places we'll see. slight offshore breeze. we should see the sea breeze kick in later this afternoon. but in the meantime upper 80s to low 90s for valley temperatures, 70s closer to san francisco. cooler temperatures start to arrive tomorrow. more noticeable cooling as the sea breeze really cranks up by wednesday. mike. >> ki
faa warning in some cases passengers could see delays up to 90 minutes or more. that is nationwide. this is all part of the sequestration cuts imposed by congress in order try and save more than $600 million. we'll have a look at your local weather and traffic right after this break. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! ♪ wow. [ buzz ] delicious, right? yeah. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... ♪ well, would...